Religion 2
                    Part two of two

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IT IS OFTEN SAID THAT JESUS WAS THE WAY SHOWER. COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT OF THE WAY, THE DIRECTION?

He modeled, he witnessed, he embodied this presence of the Christed self. He was the first one to express in human form an altered DNA, and so he embodied it to give the world a visible form to see, to look at. Then he also said the way is through love and those who experience that love then also emitted it and also became like unto him. And then so on and so on. His presence was new. It was a breakthrough, and the teaching about him being a Savior is because he broke through the density of duality and embodied, fully embodied this Christed nature, the Creator within creation, within his form. He was able to crack the patterned belief structures and open into the physical human DNA structure this new frequency, this new combination that you are now also growing into. So yes, he was the way shower in that way.

WERE JESUS AND BUDDHA SIMILAR TYPES OF BEINGS? DID THEY HAVE THE SAME INTENTION, DID THEY PROMOTE THE SAME TYPES OF SPIRITUALITY, OF FULFILLMENT?

Buddha also embodied love. So did Krishna. Different aspects were portrayed depending on the culture in which they embodied and what the intent was for their purpose. Buddha and Krishna had a different intent than Jesus, different fulfillment. Their embodiments, also, were extraordinary in terms of the ability to bring the presence into form and to then reform, make change, and address the evolution. They came for different cultures and into different paradigms of thought, and so their purpose was directly designed, specifically designed for that entrance. Jesus was specifically designed for the Western thought form exhibited through the Judaic teaching. Buddha was in the East. Krishna was in the East, but different traditions.

HAVE THERE BEEN ANY OTHER SIMILAR BEINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PUBLICIZED? ARE THERE OTHER ASCENDED BEINGS OR ARE THEY ALL CREATED AS INDIVIDUALS THAT REACH THE SOURCE?

They embodied the Source with the intent of the Source to move into new forms, to transmute, to transform. Yes, there have been others, and some of them have been known and visible, and some have not been so visible. Oftentimes if they initiated some form of energy that brought another phase of evolution, then they were part of it. Sometimes there were groups of people that embodied to bring it about, not just one. There would be a group that would come into an area. Your Renaissance is an example. That was a group energy that it took to bring that kind of creativity into manifest form. Different artists embodied to bring into form a new frequency that then lead to a birthing. So, it is not only individuals.

The intent of the Source, the Father, wedded more and more and more with the great Mother matter matrix here, has been to move this creative energy more and more and more into forms that can be purely creative so that whenever there is a new thrust of energy there is also a birthing of creativity.

YOU'VE SPOKEN SO MUCH OF LOVE AND YOU SPOKE EARLIER OF FLUID COCREATIVE LOVE. I SOMETIMES THINK THAT WE EVEN TEND TO CRYSTALLIZE LOVE. CAN YOU SPEAK ABOUT THAT PLEASE?

Good observation. If we had other words at times we would use them, because at times you have an image of love. You feel that if things fit this image then they are good, if they do not fit this image then they are not so good. It is true that the images and beliefs of love as formed in this dualistic pattern and culture limit your experience of love. As you open to the true essence of this Source, which is pure light, pure love, Anara, then there is a gradual release of those forms, those beliefs, and those images. You go beyond them into what is sometimes beyond words, beyond an ability to describe the experience. Then you have only yourself and your actions that emit and give form to what is truly beyond words.

SO IT WOULD LEAD US REALLY TO TOTAL TRUST OF OUR EXPERIENCE IN THE MOMENT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?  THAT THAT IS HOW IT CREATES OR IS FLUID? YOU BECOME IT?

Yes, you become it. You become in action the fluid cocreator, which is the embodiment of love.  And there is no law then for you.

I GREW UP IN THE CATHOLIC RELIGION AND HAVE LEFT IT LONG AGO AND FOUND IT VERY PAINFUL WHILE GOING THROUGH THAT TO LIVE THAT REALITY, BUT AS I MOVED OUT OF IT I'M BEGINNING TO BLESS IT BECAUSE IT ALLOWED ME TO EVOLVE BEYOND IT, INTO A BETTER PLACE OF PEACE. IT SEEMS THAT IT NO LONGER SUPPORTED OR MET MY NEEDS AS A HUMAN BEING.

It was not evolving with you. You were evolving beyond it. And yet it did, as you say, give you the structure to evolve through and beyond. That is true. And in the mystery within all religions there is the essence of the truth. When the rituals are enacted and brought into experience by ones who have a sincere integrity of love, then there are sometimes openings that allow experiences beyond the form, beyond the structures. However, there has not been a place in religion for direct experience of God,  for direct revelation, or even for what we do here. The gifts were limited by the fear of the change which would alter the form and the structure that ones wished so dearly to continue to identify with.

YOU SPOKE OF THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS AND THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO THOMAS AND THAT SOME OF THOSE FINDINGS STILL CARRY THAT VIBRATION. WILL THERE BE MORE DISCOVERIES LIKE THAT THAT HELP IN THE DISMANTLING PROCESS OF THE RELIGIOUS STRUCTURES?

There will be assistance coming from different angles. One will be discoveries of further documents.  Some of them will also be ancient documents and ancient things that are yet to be discovered. These will open up revelation of knowledge and knowing that is far greater than has been encapsulated in a small religious sect or teaching. Another avenue will be science. Science will begin to be able to, in some ways, give proof of energetics and vibrational difference. They will begin to be able to measure and give some proof of it. Those who have been caught in a simplified teaching of the soul being this or that will begin to open and will have to open, just like when Columbus discovered that the world was round rather than flat. It altered the whole world view, gradually. There was some fighting about it for awhile, but that will happen as well. Science will also bring some new information, and then within several years more and more information will be accessible directly from those who visit and who are already visiting your planet from other places. How will religion begin to incorporate that which they have not had to put into their context? They have to incorporate some new things and be able to explain them, otherwise they will no longer be credible.

COULD YOU SAY MORE ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE VISITING OUR PLANET FROM OTHER PLACES. ARE THEY FRIENDLY, UNFRIENDLY, OR A MIXTURE? WHY ARE THEY HERE? ARE THEY BRINGING US KNOWLEDGE, OR TRYING TO GET KNOWLEDGE FROM US? WE'RE HAVING MORE AND MORE UFO SIGHTINGS. WHAT'S THE MEANING OF IT ALL?

That you are not alone! They wish to assist you with knowledge and with information that brings understanding to what you have begun to discover for yourselves, and bring further application of these discoveries so that your planet can be served for the highest good of all. The intent of those who will manifest and be visible and make themselves known in the next years have this as their intent. There will be sufficient numbers of you who are willing and ready to receive this information who are training now to be receivers for this information, who will then be able to translate for those who are not as open and bring it into your experience to share with others.

ARE THESE VISITORS OF PHYSICAL FORM LIKE WE ARE?

Some of the forerunners of these ones have taken physical embodiment that is not so different than your form. However, as you get used to the idea that there are other forms that also have evolved, then they will begin to appear more in their natural forms. They do not wish to scare you.

WHAT ARE THEIR NATURAL FORMS?

Depending on where they are from they are somewhat different. Those who are most probably the ones that will be most visible as the first edge of this have larger heads, which you are also evolving.  That is why you have so many more C-sections now because the pelvis is not able to bring the larger skulls through. They have larger heads and larger eye sockets. Their extrasensory perception is highly evolved and their skin covering is thinner than yours, leaving more exposure to what is underneath your thicker skin. The bodily workings are more visible because the skin is more transparent, and they do not wish to frighten you. Also, they are not fully equipped to be in the physical for very long because of their differences and your pollutants which penetrate through their thin skins rather rapidly. So they are still developing what they need for protection in your atmosphere.

ARE THEY ALL FRIENDS?

Those that we are speaking of would be friends, yes. There are those who have worked in the earth plane in the past who have perhaps had more singular intentions in the sense that they were also looking for certain adaptations that they could get or use with the human race for their own purposes.  That has been somewhat curtailed and controlled by those who are overseeing this last phase of this shifting. They were no longer welcomed or invited or allowed into this atmosphere for those purposes, and they have to work through the ones who have, in a sense, put up a kind of barricade for those ones. They cannot go through the barricade.
 

I HAD HEARD IT SAID THAT WE ARE SPIRITUAL BEINGS HAVING A HUMAN EXPERIENCE. IF SO, THEN WE LEAVE THE PHYSICAL VEHICLE BEHIND WHEN WE DIE AND THE SPIRITUAL BEING LIVES ON. WHERE DO WE RETURN TO?

You return to that which is interdimensional space where you have a sort of body, unless you don't want one, that is very much like yours, but etheric. It is of less density. It does not have this density and yet you have a sense of form, and you return to that which does not age and does not die. It is usually in an optimal sense of health, vitality, and appearance. If you have ever seen any of your former relatives visit you on the inner planes, or even in a greater physical form for you to see, they are perhaps younger than when they died and left the body. We would want to correct one other thing. Until now you have been spiritual beings having a human experience. The shift, the transmutation, and the fulfillment of the intent of Jesus, is to be spiritually present within this experience of human and then become a human spirit. A human being, fully embodied spirit being, that no longer has to be under the rules and the laws of the physical. It is no longer bound by those laws because there is the ability to be transmutive, transformative, while embodied. That is the evolutionary goal or path or focus. That is where you are evolving. You may yet go through another cycle of death in order to then come into a form and a body that you can fully merge within that has less of the density to transmute.

I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WAS A GREAT CLARIFICATION FOR ME WHEN YOU SAID THAT CHRIST'S BODY WAS CHANGED CHEMICALLY. WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THOSE DAYS THAT HE WAS IN THE TOMB AND THE ENERGY THERE HAD TO BE VERY GREAT. IS THERE ANY MEDIUM, I'M TALKING ABOUT FROM AN ARTISTIC POINT NOW, SUCH AS OILS, THAT COULD BE USED ON A CANVAS TO SHOW THAT?

You can illustrate to some degree the shift of the embodiment process, but it cannot be put onto a canvas for it is a DNA physical alteration or change. It is primarily only through the experience that it can be shown. They will be able to measure it scientifically. They already know that the DNA of viruses and bacteria are transmuting rapidly, so much so that antibiotics will no longer work. They know that. They will then begin to discover that the DNA within the human form is also transmuting rapidly, and that will be a revelation when they begin to discover that. Then, those who come will assist the consciousness of those who are in the sciences, to make further discoveries. The scientists will use mathematics and computers that can accurately measure and then show such transmutive properties. The capacities of those whose bodies have transmuted sufficiently will also be proof. But, the artistic mediums can only reflect it, more like the moon reflecting the energy of the sun.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO PAINT. IS IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE?

You can allow the energy of your own creative force to come through the medium and that will assist ones to recognize that which is coming. New context, new forms, new images need to be brought into the collective consciousness because the old ones don't serve any more. Don't limit yourself. Follow whatever impulse is within you because the intent within it has a purpose that you won't know until it happens.

I CAN CLARIFY THIS FOR HER. SHE PAINTED A PICTURE OF JESUS, AND ON MY FIRST VISIT TO HER HOME I WALKED IN AND SAW THIS PICTURE, AND I HAD TO SIT DOWN. THE ENERGY WAS SO GREAT I COULDN'T STAND UP. AND THAT'S WHAT IS GOING TO
COME THROUGH HER PAINTINGS.
 

Yes, the energy can transmit through paintings, that is true.
 

WERE THERE RELIGIONS WITHIN THE MAYAN CIVILIZATION ?

Of a sort, but it had a different basis. It was more like what we earlier spoke of when there was the tribal or the innate religious traditions where only those who had evolved to a state of knowing, of experience, of direct experience of this light were then the teachers. There is a religion, and there is a sort of tradition or ritual that goes with that. Yet they had also a science that was embodied within their religion to explain the world and the cosmos and the universe. Largely they disappeared when their time was done. They basically all left together. Most of the ones who were of that state had a sufficient amount of evolution to basically leave the planet. Most of the Mayan civilization of that time, at least those that were of that evolutionary pattern and path, left. What remains is what was passed on to certain ones who kept the tradition in story, in the earth, or in the cities and the pyramids. However, not many stayed. It went underground.

I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE JEWISH RELIGION, BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT EACH FAITH OR ALL RELIGIONS HAVE A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF ENLIGHTENED BEINGS OR PEOPLE. YOU MENTIONED CABBALA. WHAT IS THAT? ARE THERE POCKETS OF PEOPLE WITHIN CATHOLICISM, WITHIN LUTHERANISM, THAT ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE'RE ACHIEVING?

You could say that. Each tradition holds keys that they have held in codes about the great story of the evolution of this cosmos. The Cabbala is one of the codes. Those who are now opening the codes of the Cabbala are bringing much information and knowledge through this into consciousness. In the same way some of the original language is being decoded from the Sanskrit traditions and the aboriginal traditions. All traditions have some keys and codes that have been part of usually a mystery school, of sorts, that are not publicly known. As they become more public and more of that is revealed to the consciousness that is now ready to receive it, then the whole puzzle will begin to be put together so that all each religion, each spirituality, the Mayans, the Native Americans, will start to each bring their piece to the whole.

ARE THOSE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WILL START TO BREAK DOWN FORMAL RELIGION?

Yes, partly because the consciousness is growing to oneness and people don't feel so good being in separate, competing, structures. Consciously this evolution reaches into the whole and ones begin to make shifts, and then they don't feel so good doing what they used to do. As each one awakens to that then they begin the process of their evolutionary shift and changing.

THEN IF EACH RELIGION, EACH TRIBE, EACH SECT GOES BACK TO THE BEGINNING, THE VERY BEGINNING OF THEIR TRUTHS, WE ALL COME TO THE SAME POINT.

Yes.

ONE?

Yes.

NO MATTER WHERE WE ARE AT NOW IF WE GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING EACH ONE STARTED OUT WITH THE SAME TRUTH.

That's right and in some ways, going full circle, all end up at the same place.

Do you wish to do a little process? Are you alert enough yet? So breathe, relax, let the energy flow fluidly through you. Allow your crown to open and become a conduit for the beautiful rays of love in all of its glory, all of its color, to fluidly move through you, each of you calling for exactly what you need. . . . As this fluid force moves through you, ask it to contact and connect with those structures and beliefs you have around God, who you are, your relationship with the Source of love, your relationship with all of creation, all of those structures and beliefs that were defined for you. Ask this fluid love of light, of beauty and of love to touch, to connect with, and to release those forms, those beliefs that bind you and keep you in a limitation. Release those things that keep you in a place that binds and holds you, that does not allow you to expand, to embrace and experience the whole of who you truly are and, embody that Christed nature. So breathe now as it loosens, inviting, welcoming, giving permission. Breathe in through your nose up to the crown and as you breathe out, sigh. Yes, use your voice and your breath and continue to do this breath and as you do this allow any thoughts and memories to fluidly wash through you that have been raised tonight. Allowing the fluid light and love to not be detoured by any structures, but only allowed into your heart, your soul, your experience, to enhance and expand who you experience yourself to be. That is good. Allow your hearts now, as they receive this expansion, to no longer be limited by what you experienced love to be. It is not a word, it is a state of being. Expand into this state of being, be this love, this light. Be in your body, letting fluid love run joyously through your body. Liquid love, liquid joy, dancing, sparkling, animate, alive, spontaneously bursting forth in creative bursts of love and expression, of light into color and form, knowing that you have the capacities that have been evolved in you to be perfect transmitters, perfect creators of love and light and joy, all of that which is the essence of the Source, of the Creator itself. For you have embodied, by design, by choice, to evolve the Creator intent to be within creation, to be fully present as Jesus illustrated, as Buddha illustrated, as Krishna illustrated, as those who have been of love everywhere, have illustrated. Do not limit only to those who have had experience with who have had great public names. Every time you have experienced love you have experienced this. Every time you have allowed yourself to be loved you have experienced this. As you do so you will be it, embodied, and all who see you, all who are in your presence, will feel it and you will be the Christed one in the midst of others. You will be that which illustrates and brings form, of healing, of balance, of harmony, of beauty, in multitudes of ways. Not just healing, but multitudes of new ways will explode from these bodies, these presences that are here now, and many that are not. It is indeed time for the return of that one that once walked in one body and then began to multiply. You are the multiplication illustrating of the Christed one embodied, and also one, for that Christ is one with many many many expressions, for the dance cannot be done in one body. That is all for this evening. Thank you for your participation. Thank you for joining us.  Thank you for your embodiments.
 

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